On and Off Relationship for 15 Years (Full Episode) | Paternity Court


Please be seated. Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is the case of
Harris v. Sterling.
Thank you, Jerome.
Good day, everyone. AUDIENCE: Good day. Ms. Harris, you claim
that your 15-year
on and off relationship with Mr. Sterling
has produced a baby that he is trying
to get out of
helping raise. You are here
to prove paternity and force him to step up.
Is that correct? Correct, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE:
Mr. Sterling, you say
the plaintiff told you her son, Ca’son,
was not yours, and you’re tired of
taking care of
another man’s baby. You’ve come to get
the DNA proof you need to remove your name
from the birth certificate and finally get Ms. Harris
out of your life.
Is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. All right. So, Ms. Harris,
you say you’re not going
to raise this baby alone? Yes, Your Honor.
Basically, Mr. Sterling
needs to step up and take care of his baby
that he knows is his. You know, I’m not going
to do this by myself. So, I’m here because
I want to prove
paternity to him that this is his child. And so, you’ve been doing it
by yourself thus far? Yes, ma’am. Eleven months
Ca’son is? He’s… Our birthday
is tomorrow.So, he’ll be one.
I had him on my
birthday last year.
AUDIENCE:Aw!JUDGE LAKE:And so,
Mr. Sterling,
Ca’son is almost
one year. No help, no support? First of all,
that’s not my baby and I’m going off
of what Charity
is telling me. Oh, what did she tell you? HARRIS: First of all, it is his baby
and he knows
it’s his baby. That is not the truth. It is his baby. She tells me,
when we get to arguing, “This is not your baby.” Yeah. And you need… Because he gets
on my nerves and I don’t want
him to be in my life. So… JUDGE LAKE: Oh… Just like he want
to move on
and move out… Move on with his life,
I do too sometimes. I hate I even met him. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) Okay, so, Ms. Harris,
the truth is you did
ring that bell. You have said to him,
“It’s not your baby.” HARRIS: I did. And you know, as a woman,
once you ring it, you can’t
unring it. I und… He’s always gonna have
that thought in his mind and that doubt
to hang his hat on. Right, but he wasn’t
doing nothing before the bell got wrong about him not being
the father. JUDGE LAKE: You’re saying
before your said this, he was not stepping up
to the plate. Exactly, and he was
cheating the whole time
I was pregnant. That’s a negative. He was cheating. That is a negative. He was cheating
the whole time. That is a negative. And he’s lying. Hold on, Mr. Sterling. Yes. Because, even if he was
cheating, that’s bad enough and we don’t want that
and we do not condone that
in this courtroom. The question concerning
paternity would surround whether or not you were
sleeping with somebody else… No. …at the time. And so, Mr. Sterling, what I’m saying is,
I want to understand your doubt. First off, you’re saying
she’s told you, point blank, you’re not Ca’son’s
biological father? Yes. The timeline
doesn’t add up at all. She told me her finger was broken
or something, she went to
the hospital to a random doctor
or whatever, and they told her
she was pregnant. And when they told her
that she was pregnant,
she called me. Six, eight weeks, is supposed to be
when she… When they said that
she was pregnant. I mean, how long
she was conceived. And you submitted
a calendar to the court. Yes, ma’am. I’d like to go through
that calendar so I can better
understand this. Thank you. JUDGE LAKE:So now,
the first date on this calendar
says the doctor’s appointmentwas on March 21st.And the doctor says
Ms. Harris is six
to eight weeks pregnant.
And you had sex
on Valentine’s Day.
So now, if we
count back six
to eight weeks, one week, two weeks,
three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, six weeks,
seven weeks, eight weeks, that is the last week
in January. HARRIS: (CHUCKLES) Your Honor. STERLING: Thank you. Um, first of all, they told me
that hCG number of
the blood test showed that I was between
six to eight weeks. When I went to my
primary care gynecologist, they confirmed that
I was six weeks pregnant and because of my last
menstrual period that was on February 1st, my conception date
was Valentine’s weekend. So, why would my doctor
make that up? Ms. Harris, I’m gonna be
completely honest with you. There are women,
grown women, that stand in this courtroom
that don’t completely
understand the workings of their
reproductive organs
and systems. They don’t. Right. And so, as we look
at this… HARRIS: But I had a baby. Look, and that’s why
you understand it. Yes. What I asked him was, is what is your doubt
based on? Why’re you so distant
from this baby? Why don’t you believe
this baby is yours? And he’s trying
to say to me, “These are my reasons.” Number one,
“She told me I wasn’t.” Number two, “When I
did the calculation, “this is what I came up with.” This is his evidence he’s
submitted to the court. HARRIS: Right. Your explanation of
the evidence is
your explanation. Exactly. But his understanding is
something different. And so that’s why
I’m trying to understand
why he doubts. And I want him
to enumerate it. Now, Mr. Sterling. Yes, ma’am. JUDGE LAKE: Please tell me if there is any other reason
why you doubt Ca’son is your
biological child. When she was
eight months pregnant, she told me that, uh, there was another guy
who could be
the baby’s father. And it broke my heart. First of all,
that’s a lie. We had an argument, and she just
brung that up. I don’t know
if she was mad
or what, but whatever it is… JUDGE LAKE: What happened?
Tell me the story. …it implanted a doubt
in my head. He’s lying. What happened? She said, “Don’t worry, “you’re not my baby’s
father anyway. “So you need to like
go and kick rocks, “get on with your life
or whatever.”
I’m like, “What?” Like, we were
just together, I was just, you know,
the baby’s father,
and everything. But now… Did she tell you when… …all of a sudden… Did she tell you when she was with
this other guy? Yes, two weeks before, before we had sex
on February 14th. It’s not funny. It is very funny. So, if you go back
to the calendar, you’re now saying if we count
two weeks before,the time when you were
intimate with her,
which is February 14th,two weeks before that
would be
around the first weekin February,
last week of January.
You’re saying it puts
the window right
at the time when she claims
she was intimate
with somebody else. Amen, Your Honor. So, Ms. Harris,
did you have sex
with another man two weeks before
you had sex
with Mr. Sterling? It wasn’t two weeks,
it was like three weeks. It was like not even
three weeks. (AUDIENCE MURMURING) So, it’s two to three weeks before you were intimate
with Mr. Sterling, you were intimate
with another man. Yeah. Yeah. JUDGE LAKE: Okay. Did you ever tell
this other man
you were pregnant? No, because it was not
a possibility because I did not have
unprotected sex
with this man, like I did with Chris
when I conceived. JUDGE LAKE: So you never… He didn’t tell you
that part. So you did have sex
with the other guy
but you used protection? Yeah. That’s what she says. I don’t know. That’s what I did. I don’t got
to lie to myself. Man. We’re here today
for a reason. Things happen. Because she is lying.
Because she is a liar. That’s the reason
we’re here today. Exactly, ’cause
you’re a liar. You need
to step up pretty much. No, listen. I don’t want
to take care of
another man’s child. You don’t want to take care
of the children that’s yours. Yes, I do. I love him.
I love that little boy
and you know that. HARRIS: Don’t sit here and
play it like you just… STERLING: You know that.
That’s the reason you wanted
me to be the baby’s daddy. You don’t take care of
yourself or the child
that you already got. Don’t sit here and kick it like
that, baby. I ain’t got
nothing to do with
this situation. Don’t sit here
and kick it like you do… JUDGE LAKE: Hold on,
hold on, hold on. Your biggest issue is you don’t want
to take care of
another man’s child. You want to know
if this child is yours. You don’t believe
this child is yours. He don’t like responsibility,
Your Honor. And, Ms. Harris, you believe
he’s avoiding responsibility. He’s avoiding responsibility.
Let me tell you something. Whether my son
is or is not his, he don’t take care of himself
or the one that he knows
is his. But now you just said,
whether your son is
or isn’t his. So do you have doubt? No, I don’t, Your Honor.
I know he’s my
baby’s daddy. I know this.
I know Mr. Sterling is my child’s father
because I was not
having sex like that. Yeah, we were getting it in. Yeah, we were getting it in,
just like you done got it in
and the “condom” broke, with another girl. Okay. That’s another story. We can save that for
Couples Court.
JUDGE LAKE: Okay. Jesus. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Okay. Well, I guess this
will be an ongoing saga. Let’s deal with
the paternity issue now. Well, Your Honor,
I just want to say,
with all the doubt that he has, first of all, he was there
with all my doctor visits. Yes. Yes. He was there when
I delivered my baby, along with flirting
and cheating on me throughout my whole pregnancy. He was at the hospital
flirting with nurses. And I’m about
to get in a fight. Your Honor… You’re nothing
to treat me like that. Hold on, sir. Your Honor. No. MAN, no. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) He signed
the birth certificate. Please don’t let her
finish that And cut the umbilical cord,
I want you to think about it. If you thought
that this was not
your baby then, I didn’t have no gun
to your head. Why did you sign
the birth certificate? Why you was there
through my delivery? Man. Why did you cut
the umbilical cord? So, here is
the birth certificate
that he signed. JUDGE LAKE: Let me see that. Jerome, let me see
the birth certificate. Because you got our life
all the way twisted, sir. That’s your brain. No. That’s your brain. So this is evidence
of Ca’son Sterling’s
birth certificatewhere Christopher Sterling
has signed as father.
Yes.So, she asked a very good
question, Mr. Sterling.
If you had this doubt, when the baby came
and you were
at the hospital, why execute
the birth certificate if you know
you have doubt? The thing about it,
Your Honor, um, like at the eight month
when we got into
an argument, I thought it was just
because she might
have been mad, maybe she did just say this
out of… ‘Cause you know you cheated
and you lied,
you were wrong. Whatever. So maybe
she did say this out of
just spite. You know
what I’m saying? So, when she had
the baby, I still
was there. I was still there,
and I was still doing
what I can, being by her side. What was you doing? Rubbing your
big, old feet. Rubbing your big,
old legs. (LAUGHTER) Yeah. He’s trying to joke. “Baby, I look ugly.” “No, baby,
you look good.” JUDGE LAKE: No, don’t worry. Ms. Harris,
I’m not laughing. …big old feet. STERLING: I was there. HARRIS: Get away. I rubbed them big,
old feet. You were up my… JUDGE LAKE: But listen,
listen. No, no, no. We’re not laughing
at you, Ms. Harris. I’m laughing with you though
because I was just looking
at some old pictures when I was eight,
nine months pregnant. And, I mean,
my feet were huge. It’s so crazy.
It was crazy. I know that’s fine. But, listen, listen. The point is,
is he’s saying, he did think
when you said that
in the argument that you were
just being mean. And he didn’t
really believe it. And so, you executed
the birth certificate,
right, Mr. Sterling? Yes, ma’am. And you were happy to do so
because you believed
this was your child. Yes. But somehow,
from that point on, the doubts
began to grow? STERLING: Yes. JUDGE LAKE: Based upon… Sure enough… He thinks the baby
don’t look like him. Four months, she texts me. And when she texts me,
she say, “The baby… “The baby
is somebody else’s.” She said…
She said it again. I couldn’t believe
she told me
through a text again. I told you once. No, you told me again
through a text four months later. I told you once. And told me
it wasn’t mine again. JUDGE LAKE: Hold on. Hold on. The communication
you’re talking about,
Mr. Sterling, you submitted
to the court. Yes. JUDGE LAKE:It says…(JUDGE LAKE READING) JUDGE LAKE:
And then you respond.
(JUDGE LAKE READING) (SCOFFS) Boy, you don’t know
how to spell. You’re very illiterate. You didn’t even
graduate from
high school. JUDGE LAKE: So, listen,
the point is… HARRIS: One thing
your’re not going
to do is just sit here and try to
play me like I’m stupid. That’s what
you’re not going to do. No, you’re not stupid,
I’m stupid. Yeah, you are. I’m very stupid
because I’m dealing
with your broke ass. No. Hold on,
hold on. Ms. Harris, hold on, hold on. Let’s not go there
with it. What he submitted it for
is to show that you have said
in writing, and you
admittedly said it in an argument, this child is not his. Mmm-hmm. What he is establishing is
there has been a reoccurring
theme in this relationship that the baby
is not his. No, it was one time.
He’s using it because
he don’t like responsibility. He won’t do nothing
before I told him
it was his. What was the difference? JUDGE LAKE: So was this
the only time you told him
the baby wasn’t his? HARRIS: Yes, he’s lying. So the argument
that he’s talking about you didn’t tell him that
you had sex with
the other man and the baby… No. Listen, the time he’s talking about
when he told me I was with the
dude two weeks before. First of all,
me and Chris
was off and on with our pregnancy because at the end of the day,
he was still cheating, and still trying to be
with his previous
relationship and other females. That’s one thing. Number two, he took me
through a lot of
emotional distress that I don’t deserve,
after losing, between the time
that we weren’t together
in ten years, I lost my boyfriend
of eight years. And he knew that. And he was insecure
of a deceased person. He took me
through hell. So, how he feels
is bull. It was the way
she went about it. Because at
the end of the day, you don’t like
responsibility. You didn’t like it
before I got pregnant, before we reunited, because you went
and took care
of your firstborn. So don’t sit here and kick it
like this for these folks. Okay, so listen.
The whole point… HARRIS: This ain’t
a classroom. Listen, the whole point
as to why we are here is because we want
to find out the answers relating
to Ca’son’s paternity. That’s why we’re here. And the truth is, if it is determined
he is Ca’son’s
biological father, whether he likes
responsibility
or he does not, he will have it. Because if he does not
take care of it, the court will ensure
that he does. STERLING: No problem. JUDGE LAKE: So now,
let’s get to finding out the answer
we came here for. Before I go
to the results, Mr. Sterling,
what is your hope? I still don’t
really understand whether you want Ca’son
to be your biological child or whether you don’t. HARRIS: He don’t.
I understand it. I do, Your Honor. I done grown
a bond with him. Like, he called me “Daddy.”He is the one like
I’m always looking for…
You don’t got
to do all that. You save all that drama
for your mama, baby,
because they like that. But no, Mr. Sterling,
so when that… Like I said…
Like I said, I love him. If we can’t… If I find out
he’s not mine, that’s just what it is.
I have to move on. It is what it is. Move on
back to your previous
relationship that you, just last week
got caught. I hope he’s mine. Still trying to hold on
to these faults, man. I hope he’s mine,
you know what
I’m saying like, not because of her. I just want the results
so I can move on
with my life. If he’s mine
or he’s not. I just want to go
about it the right way. I am ready to go
to the results. HARRIS: All right,
me too. (APPLAUSE) JUDGE LAKE: It’s time. These results were prepared
by DNA Diagnostics
and they read as follows. In the case of
Harris v. Sterling…
Yes, I do. I love him.
I love that little boy
and you know that. JUDGE LAKE: When it comes to
11-month-old
Ca’son Sterling, it has been determined
by this court, Mr. Sterling, you are the father. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So what you got
to say now, baby? All this, all this. We got to
leave here, you know that,
right? JUDGE LAKE: You know what,
Ms. Harris, there are men
that don’t come
see their children ’cause they don’t want
to deal with a woman
that acts like you. I’m keeping it real. But… Uh-uh-uh. It’s not ’cause
it’s wrong or right. It’s just ’cause
it’s the reality of how
relationships are. I can see
how frustrated you are. I’ve heard exactly
what you said. He’s a liar. He cheats. JUDGE LAKE: But the point…
I get that. That’s why our relationship
dynamic is like that. You think I don’t get that? HARRIS: So, it’s not me. No, no, no,
it’s not about that. What I’m saying to you
is it’s not about you. It’s about Ca’son. HARRIS: That’s why I’m here. And that’s what I want you
to understand. Exactly. JUDGE LAKE: And what
I’m saying to you is create a situation
where your son has the best opportunity to have his father
in his life. And also for his father
to care for him and be present
to help you raise him. Just understand that at the end… HARRIS: Well now, we can
move forward. Yes. We can move forward.
I am with that. That’s it. You can move forward.
And, Mr. Sterling, are you ready
to move forward? Yes. JUDGE LAKE: Good. So that’s
what I want you to do. I want you to go
talk to Dr. Jeff. I want you to
figure out how
to do that. You have
a beautiful baby. Thank you. If anything in the world
is worth just the effort… HARRIS: He is
definitely worthy. He is worth it. All right? HARRIS: He is worthy. I wish you all
the very best of luck. HARRIS: Thank you. Court is adjourned.

Leave a Reply

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *