Man Says Baby Looks Like Donald Trump’s (Full Episode) | Paternity Court

Man Says Baby Looks Like Donald Trump’s (Full Episode) | Paternity Court


Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is the case
ofThomas v. McKey.Thank you, Jerome.
Good day, everyone. AUDIENCE: Good day! Ms. Thomas, you and
the defendant,
Mr. McKey, met on an
online dating website, and the conversation
quickly jumped offline
and into Mr. McKey’s bed. You believed you were
in a committed relationship with the defendant, and was devastated
when he denied your pregnancy,
is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. Mr. McKey, you say
that there is no way you could be
the biological father of
the plaintiff’s son, Karson. You claim once you took a look
at Ms. Thomas’s son, you were 100% sure that
her baby belonged to
another man, is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. All right, so I’m going
to start with you, Ms. Thomas. Why do you believe you were
in a committed relationship with the defendant? First of all, we met
on a dating website,
as you spoke. We started off talking. And then once we started
knowing each other,
who we were… JUDGE LAKE: How long did you
talk on the phone? Maybe about a month or two. Okay. And then I started going
to see him, maybe like
about a 45 minutes’ drive from where I live, like every other day. So I’m assuming…
I’m spending the night,
staying the night with him, things like that.
So I’m assuming… And you’re having a good time,
getting to know one another. You are obviously, since
you’re spending the night, already started having sex. That’s right. And so what did
you like about him? What were you drawn to?
He was kind, he was… His looks.
He’s not a bad looking person. (SCATTERED LAUGHTER) He’s funny. He’s hilarious.
He keeps a smile on my face. JUDGE LAKE: So he’s funny,
he’s good-looking, you thought
you had met a nice guy. Right. Did it turn into a
relationship at some point? Well, I thought maybe
it was gonna head that way. But, evidently,
he wasn’t looking for
what I was looking for. Mmm-hmm. So, Mr. McKey. You’re having sex,
having this
relationship going, but you weren’t feeling like
making a commitment. I wasn’t really, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: Okay. Say something else
besides that. No, really, Mr. McKey.
Tell me about it, though. A lot of times we are in
situations like this, where there are two people
on two different pages. And I hear a lot of times
when women say, “You know, I was
committed to him,” and then the man will say, “Well, I wasn’t
committed to her.” Or even vice versa. Sometimes, you know,
the man is committed
and faithful, and the woman… Did you know
Ms. Thomas wanted to be
in a relationship with you? Not really, Your Honor, but… Did you all ever discuss
being in a relationship? No, ma’am. Oh, you didn’t? No, ma’am. So what was it about her
you were attracted to? That picture she had online. JUDGE LAKE: Okay, so you liked
what you saw… MCKEY: Yes, ma’am. …and so as you were dating, you just didn’t feel
like you were, at that point,
ready to have a commitment? Yes, ma’am. How long had you been driving
45 minutes to see him,
Ms. Thomas? Oh, about a month or so,
or longer. So about a month, you would
drive to go see him? Like every other day,
I would drive like… At nighttime,
I would put my kids to bed,
I’d go see him until it was time
for them to go to school. I would wake up
and be back home
before my kids were awake. So, I have an older child,
she would be home with them,
but… I didn’t do it every day.
I did it like every other day. And so, after this month,
Mr. McKey, you’re in this
casual relationship, she’s driving to come see you. You don’t feel like you’re
ready to make a commitment. At some point,
you find out you’re pregnant. And when you find out, you call Mr. McKey
and tell him? THOMAS: Yes, ma’am. He thought I was just joking,
like playing around,
maybe just sick. So, maybe like,
a couple of weeks later, I said, “Let me take
a pregnancy test.” So I took a pregnancy test,
I took a picture of it, and I sent it to him
through text message. He was like, “What is this?” I was like,
“A pregnancy test.” He said, “I don’t know
how to read these. “So tell me what that means.” I said, “I’m pregnant.” He was like, “Oh, okay, so,
whatever you decide to do,
just let me know.” I believe that’s all he said. So, Mr. McKey, when you found out
she was pregnant, what were you thinking, sir? Well, she called me
when she was like, three months pregnant, I got a phone call
and I was at work, and I told her
I’d call her back. But I ended up
blocking her number. What? He blocked it after
we had that conversation. Really? MCKEY: After I blocked
her number, she had the baby,
and called me
from another number. So, she called to tell you
she was pregnant, and you just said, “Okay,”
and then blocked her number? Yes, ma’am, Your Honor. Oh, you’re cold-blooded. So you blocked her number? And never heard from her again because the number
was blocked? Yes, Your Honor. And you didn’t call him
back again, Ms. Thomas? I tried to keep calling.
I thought maybe
the phone was off, or maybe he had, you know,
low service, or you know,
it just turns off. So I kept trying, kept trying. I still didn’t get nothing. I so happened
to change my phone number. So he didn’t know
my new number. Oh! THOMAS: Yeah. So after I had my baby… So, hold on, Mr. McKey, you never heard
from Ms. Thomas again during the whole pregnancy? I haven’t heard from her,
Your Honor. All while she was pregnant? Not while she was pregnant. So you weren’t there
when the baby was born? No, Your Honor. So after the baby was born, you tried back again
with this new number? I tried back again,
like a week later,
with the new number. Then he answered. And I told him
I just had my baby. He still couldn’t believe me. He was like,
“Send me some pictures.” He was at work then.
He was like,
“Send me some pictures.” So I sent him some pictures. And he was like, “That’s my baby?
Are you sure that’s my baby?” I mean, he looked
at the color of it,
why he is the color he is. JUDGE LAKE:
So, wait a minute, Mr. McKey, when you got the pictures,
what were you thinking? Like, “This is not my baby,”
Your Honor. I’m like, “Damn, this baby
makes number eight, “right here.” Number eight for who?
You or her? MCKEY: For her. THOMAS:
I have eight. That’d be number eight. JUDGE LAKE: Number eight? So I’m kinda confused. Whoa! So did you know
she had children
when you were dating her? THOMAS: Yeah,
he knew I had kids. I didn’t know she had
eight kids, you know. He knew… Seven. This little
boy makes eight. So, Mr. McKey,
she sent you a text with the picture of the baby. Your first response was what? The baby look like
he could be from Donald Trump. (LAUGHTER) THOMAS: Like, really? (GIGGLES) Oh! I didn’t expect that one. He thinks that the color
make a difference. The color doesn’t
make a difference. I think what you’re saying is you thought the baby
was biracial? That’s what you meant? Aw, he’s adorable. So when you saw the baby,
you said, “That’s not mine.” MCKEY: Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: Not just
because of the skin color, but you felt that the features
and even the characteristics
of the baby were of a child
you believed to be biracial? Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: Okay. ‘Cause you know
in this courtroom, we don’t play around
judging kids
by their skin color. But I’m trying to understand
when you say it looked like it could be… I understand
what you’re saying. (LAUGHTER) But at this point, how are you feeling
in your heart, like, are you just so doubtful you don’t want
to attach yourself… If she was meeting me
on a dating site, whoever else do you think
she might be meeting? You feel like because she
has more than one child, that she, potentially,
was entertaining,
a lot of different men. THOMAS: Right. JUDGE LAKE: And so
it’s not just you
she was sleeping with. Is that what you’re
trying to say? Why mine? Oh, now I get
what you’re saying. Could you just talk? I’m trying to, uh… I feel like I’m trying to,
uh… Right… It’s like reading Morse code,
pulling teeth,
and everything all at once, trying to get a story
out of you, Mr. McKey. You’re thinking maybe
she was already pregnant, is that what you’re thinking? Because it was only
a one-month affair? It was an affair
of longer than a month. It’s just how fast
it happened in a month. Wait a minute, explain that. MCKEY: I meet you April 1st, and April 20th,
we getting it in. It didn’t take long. Oh, you’re saying it’s because she had sex with you
so quickly, that you felt like, maybe,
this was the type of person or type of woman who’s also
having sex with other people? Online dating… When we first started off,
we were using protection. And he knew that,
and he was like… he wanted to…
without it. I was like,
“No, you know, I’m fertile.” “I just had a baby
a year or two ago. “So you know I’m fertile,
so I can’t.” So this particular time,
we didn’t have anything, so… I get it, you don’t
have to go any further. No, no, but the point
is this, though, I will say this, Mr. McKey, once a woman tells you
she is fertile,
you believe her. THOMAS: Right. No really, I mean,
if she already has
seven children, that is a very fertile woman. I almost had a heart attack
when I found that out. Whoa! I hid this pregnancy
the whole nine months. You did? From my whole family. Because I didn’t want
to have another child
without their dad. So the entire nine months
you went without
the support… When I went into labor,
my family was like, “What? “You’re in the hospital
having what?” I said I’m in the hospital
having my baby. And you had no idea,
Mr. McKey? No, I didn’t know she was
having a baby, Your Honor. But you look at that baby. He looks just like you.
Just a different color. So she called you
and told you she was pregnant, and you blocked her number. Now you see her
in here crying, ’cause she had to
go through this entire
pregnancy by herself, she couldn’t get
in touch with you, and you just standing there,
casual, like, “It didn’t mean
anything to me.” If that’s your
biological child, then what? You’ve missed the
entire beginning of his life. But what if he’s not mine,
Your Honor? What if he is not? I apologize if he is not.
But I’m 100% sure… So when is the first time
you met Karson? I mean, he was like,
a week old. So now, when you got there
and you saw the baby,
talk to me about how you felt. THOMAS: The same way
he’s feeling now. He questioned it, like, “Are you sure. Is it mine?
Why is his skin color…” That’s all he keeps saying. But he adores him.
I’m not gonna lie. But he just questioned
the skin color. That’s like when we went
and took the blood test, we stopped at a store,
she went in the store first, I grab the baby
out of the car seat, take him in the store, sit down,
I had a lady walk up, like, “That’s a cute baby,
right there. “His mama white? “You know, I’m not racist or
nothing, but his mama white?” I’m like,
“His mama right there.” So she says,
“Is his daddy white?” I’m like, “I’m the daddy.” “I’m supposed to be the daddy,
but we just took a test. “You know, I know.” She’s like,
“Baby, I pray for you.” That’s what the lady said
in the store? MCKEY: She was
ready to get mad, but you… That’s the thing.
I have to do that every day. Somebody’s like,
“Is his mama white,
or is his daddy white?” So you all can’t even enjoy these beautiful,
precious moments, these beginnings
with the child, because every time
you’re walking around with this beautiful baby, somebody looks at
either one of you all, and tries to
discredit the fact that you could be
the child’s parent? Right. My family says
he looks like him, by the nose
and everything else. He snuffles when he sleeps,
like him, he grunts like him
and everything else. They look alike. Mr. McKey,
when you look at the baby, in terms of the features, do you feel like
there’s a resemblance? My mama says
he could be mine, but my auntie says, “She needs to find
the dad of that baby.” Okay, so even in
your own family, the response has been… Is off. Is off. Karson’s eight months old. So you’ve been doing this
all this time? Yes, ma’am. Well, listen, this courtroom
is about getting to the truth, and I have to ask
difficult questions, I need to ask you
were you with any other men during the time
Karson was conceived? No, ma’am. All right. So do you
have any other kids,
Mr. McKey? I have a daughter. You do? And so this
would be your first son? I have two more on the way. You have two more kids
on the way right now? Yes ma’am, Your Honor. With your spouse
or your girlfriend? Girlfriend. Okay, so,
the children were planned? No. Okay. THOMAS: Are you
talking about me? So you have twins on the way? No, not twins,
but two different women. Are you talking about me? I just asked were you having
a baby with your girlfriend. They’re both your girlfriends? Like two sisters. WOMAN: What? Wait a minute. Did you just say you have
two sisters pregnant in the same family? Yes, Your Honor. Mr. McKey, you up here lying?
Are you serious? Yes, Your Honor. Two sisters
in the same family? They’re both having your baby
at the same time? Probably a month apart. THOMAS: Wow. Mr. McKey, please tell me you’re not
going to end up in this courtroom again… (LAUGHTER) I might be, Your Honor. You might see me
in the next 120 days. It’s not funny,
but I’m literally like, oh… ‘Cause you’re serious. Yes, ma’am. You ain’t said this much
all day. So the question of the day
becomes when are you gonna start
wearing a condom? You can’t go on like this,
Mr. McKey. That’s three paternity cases
going on at one time. These are babies.
These are babies. These are people. These are little
beautiful people you’re bringing in the world. It’s not a sport. Just because I have eight,
that don’t mean
I’m doing all that… I’ve been married,
I’m a widow. So four of my kids
are from my husband. It’s not like I’m out here
just sleeping around. Ms. Thomas, I want you
to just take a moment and explain to Mr. McKey, if, in fact,
your assertion is true and Karson
is his biological child, what do you want from him? Just, he’s a boy. Boys need their dad. So, just be there for my son. All right, in light of
everything I’ve heard, we need to get some answers. ‘Cause we need to figure out
what we’re doing here. Jerome, let me have
this envelope. Here you go. These results were prepared
by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows, “In the case of
Thomas v. McKey,
“when it comes to
eight-month-old Karson Thomas, “it has been determined
by this court, “Mr. McKey, “you are not the father.” THOMAS: Are you serious? MCKEY: Hmm. He is not the father,
Ms. Thomas. I’ll be damned… I’m sorry,
like I said, I’m sorry. Do you know
who Karson’s father is? Yes, my ex, before I met him. Did you know that
and just want it
to be Mr. McKey’s? No, I didn’t think of it
at all. It was a time space
in between. Honestly, for Karson’s sake, I’m glad we got down
to the bottom of this. I need you to do
what you need to do, and find this child’s father. Because I don’t want this baby
walking around the streets of his community,
his whole life, facing what he did as a baby. It’s even bigger
than the biology of it. It’s about this child, being able to understand and
be able to say confidently, “No, that’s my mother
and that’s my father.” All right.
That’s what I want for him. All right, I wish you
the very best of luck. Court is adjourned.

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