Ex-Lover Adamantly Claims to be Father (Full Episode) | Paternity Court


Please be seated. Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is a case of
Knowles v. Lindsley.
Thank you, Jerome. Good day, everyone. ALL: Good day. Mr. and Mrs. Knowles,
you previously appeared
in court with the defendant
for a paternity case involving another child. You’re back today because
this love triangle has led you to yet another
paternity dispute. Mr. and Mrs. Knowles,
you say you need
to prove to Mr. Lindsley that he is not the father
of your three-month-old
son, Tyler Jr., and believe he’s
claiming paternity to bust up
your happy family. Is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. All right. Mr. Lindsley,
you say Mrs. Knowles doesn’t want to admit
that she was with you and her husband
during the same time, and once you’re proven
to be her child’s father, you will fight for custody.
Is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. All right. So, Mrs. Knowles,
when you found out you were pregnant,
who did you tell? BOTH: Me. Him. He was in the hospital… (AUDIENCE GASP) (CHUCKLES) I was in the hospital room. When I said, “Who did
you tell when you found out
you were pregnant,” I heard two “me’s”. No, I told Mr. Knowles
because he was
in the room with me. I was in the hospital room. Okay, did you later
tell Mr. Lindsley? No, what I did as soon
as I found out
I was pregnant, Your Honor, I posted
a Facebook post. All my friends talk
to him, Mr. Lindsley. All of them. So, he could’ve heard it… from one of the three people
that commented… I personally remember
a text message saying that she was pregnant
with another child that was
more than likely mine. Never said that. JUDGE LAKE:
You remember getting
a text message that said that this child was
more than likely… I don’t have it anymore because I don’t have
that phone, because she
took the phone when we broke up.
But… AUDIENCE: Oh! LINDSLEY:
Yes, I do remember that. What did you do? I asked her if
it was mine or his, and I was told it was
more than likely mine, but could have
one percent chance
of being his. (AUDIENCE MURMURING) And so, Mr. Lindsley,
you insist that this is your biological child? LINDSLEY: Yes. Tell the court why. Well, according to
what I have calculated up in, with the, uh, evidence
that I have here, she was either sleeping
with both of us or sleeping with me,
’cause she was living
at my house during the time that
she would’ve conceived it. JUDGE LAKE: Really?
Let me see that. Thank you, Jerome. You’re welcome. What does this evidence
show me, Mr. Lindsley? It’s a calendar. And please
describe to the court
what it outlines. She claims that she was
back with Mr. Knowlesaround the 22nd of Marchwhen she actually
didn’t move out of my house
until closer to
the end of April.
JUDGE LAKE:Really?So she was still
living with you
through the month of April?
LINDSLEY:Yes.JESSICA:Your Honor…And Tyler Jr. was born
on December 29th? Yes, as far
as I’m aware of. JESSICA: Your Honor,
no, that’s not right. We had pictures
of me and the fa…
Me and my other kids, and Mr. Knowles
in our house in the later month of March. That can’t be. Back from, like,
March 22nd. On my Facebook page, where I took a picture
of me and my oldest on our couch
on March 22nd. LINDSLEY: There is no way. JUDGE LAKE: But… Wh… But the issue is,
is that doesn’t mean that she wasn’t still intimate
with Mr. Lindsley in April. We were… We were already
living together, Your Honor. She… We were
always together. There’s no way. We never were separated. We walked
to the store together. We stayed
in the same house. Me and Mr. Lindsley
had no contact after I moved out of his house
in the middle of March. That’s not true at all. And, Your Honor… And you never,
after that point, after March 22nd,
it’s your testimony that you never had sex
with Mr. Lindsley again. No, Your Honor. TYLER: And, Your Honor… When I had my mom
go pick up her stuff, all of her stuff
was at a different house,
not Mr. Lindsley’s. Yeah, ’cause she
destroyed my house as she moved her stuff out, but that’s another story. And so, she wasn’t
even really staying with
Mr. Lindsley at the time? No, she was staying
with a friend of hers. So then, that means that
she wouldn’t have even
been staying with you until the closer mid…
Beginning of May. Me and Mr. Lindsley
officially separated
in the middle of March. I was living with
one of my closest friends for, like, until, like,
March 22nd. March 22nd,
he came and got me from my sister’s
with his mother, and we went
and lived with him. During that week,
I wasn’t with Mr. Lindsley, didn’t see him,
didn’t do nothing. Mr. Knowles
was the one that
came and seen me, and, you know, we talked,
and worked things out
in our marriage, and that’s when we went
and started living together. LINDSLEY: Now, if you
really want to know
the truth about it, you didn’t move out
until April because I didn’t enroll
the kids in school until about
the 9th of April, which is what
the school papers show. And you was at my house, living in the same
room with me. Do you remember that? JESSICA: No, Your Honor, because in February,
right at Valentine’s Day, I only lived with him
for a couple weeks after that. He moved his ex in, and I’m gonna say, early March, because… No. That’s when we had
our falling out,
and that’s when I got out. He told me to leave,
I got my stuff and I left. So, Mr. Knowles,
you are still struggling
with this issue, with Mr. Lindsley insisting that he fathered
your wife’s child. Yes. And it’s…
What is it doing
to the family? It’s tearing us apart. Because that little boy
right there, I know he’s mine. Anybody can tell you
he’s my child. And why do you know
for certain? TYLER: (SIGHS)Look at him.
He’s got my eyes.
He’s got my hair.
He’s got…
He’s even got my… Your hair line? Yeah, my hair line. The same hair line?
That’s what
you were showing me? (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) But, he looks like me
all around.He’s my little prodigy.I just wanna get the results,
Your Honor, and be done
with him period. It’s chaotic. I wanna
move on with my family and be away from all this. Mr. Lindsley, why do you
think she’s now saying that there’s no possibility. I mean it’s not like this is
you guys’ first rodeo here. I really don’t know
why she changes
her mind every two months. Why do you say
“every two months”? We’ll quit talking for
a month, month-and-a-half
here and there, and then, next I know, I’ll get a message
from a random number
talking about, “Hi.” There is no way,
shape, or form
I contact this man. I keep blocking
every single number… So you don’t have a Google
text message app on one of your phones
that you text me with? No, sure don’t, sure don’t. What is going on
with you two? It’s a mess. Just a mess! We wanna be done
with all this drama, because my kids
don’t need it. They’re stressing out enough
wondering what’s gonna happen
with Mommy and Daddy… But you do admit
that at some point, this was a love traingle. You’re bouncing
back and forth. The only time that
I went back and forth
with anybody is when I was
with my exes. And I left them
to be with him because I wanted
to be happy. There… When I found out
I was pregnant with my last
child when we came to court, I wanted to make things work
before we, you know, came
and did all that stuff. And I tried
to make it work… It would’ve worked
if you weren’t lying
so much. …because I was happy then
for a while. But then stuff started
to go downhill and I couldn’t
take it anymore. We kept fighting
over stuff, I seen stuff I didn’t like.
I just couldn’t deal with it. So when the last time
we fought, he told me to leave.
So I left. And that’s when
I got back with my husband who really does care
about me. And then I kept
pushing him away to try to be happy
with Mr. Lindsley,
and it wasn’t working. That’s pretty funny that
you were pushing him away
to be with me when I didn’t know
about him for the whole year
we was together. And that’s a lie and a half, because the friend
that hooked me and you up started dating…
Even knew about my husband. And that’s the truth. But that ain’t
what we’re here for.
We’re here for the kid. She sent me a text one day. I didn’t know who it was
’cause it was a weird number. After me and her separated, I thought she wanted
to leave me, so I deleted her number
out of my phone. She sent me a text saying, “Dustin wants me
to get a divorce
so we can get married.” Jerome, didn’t I say
this was a love triangle? JEROME: Absolutely. Okay. And then you disagreed. No, it was there
for a while, Your Honor, but I didn’t want him back. Let me tell you something. This is exactly what this is. If you look up
“Love Triangle”
in the dictionary right now, it’s your three heads
next to it. (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) You have the baby, and you
name the baby Tyler Jr. JESSICA: Yes, Your Honor. Which, when she called me
about having the baby, she told me
a whole ‘nother name. JUDGE LAKE:
Which name did she tell you? She… I don’t
actually remember
the exact name she told me, but she didn’t… Okay, but that
doesn’t matter. What matters is what’s
on his birth certificate. That’s right, Mr. Knowles. Because my name
is on his birth certificate. JUDGE LAKE:
Now, what matters
in terms of a nameis what’s on
the birth certificate,
but the truth is
that just means
it’s his legal name.
TYLER:Mmm-hmm.Now, as to who
his legal father is, that’s also listed
on the birth certificate.And that’s you.TYLER:Tyler Andrew
Knowles Sr.
But that still
has absolutely no bearing on who his biological
father really is. I still believe
I’m his biological father. Mr. Lindsley,
after Tyler Jr. was born did you have a chance
to see him? Did you hear of any… LINDSLEY:
I did not see him. I had not seen him
in person, no, but I have gotten,
received pictures of… Mrs. Knowles sent you
the pictures? How did
you get the pictures? Yes. Text message. And what did she say
with these pictures? At the time, she told me
that the baby was born, and I said, “Well,
what’s he look like?” She sent me a picture. I sais, “Well, what do
you think? Is it mine or his?” She goes, “There’s a chance
it could be either/or.” (AUDIENCE MURMURING) Your Honor, I haven’t
sent him anything! All of a sudden,
I’m sitting on the couch
with my husband and I get a message
from Mr. Lindsley saying,
“Are you by yourself? “You got a new phone number.
I’ve been trying to call you “but it’s saying
it’s been disconnected.” See that’s pretty funny,
because I really
don’t ever care if you’re by yourself or not
when I text you because I’m not
texting you for you, I’m texting you to see
how the kids that I’ve helped raise
are doing. Your Honor, he wanted
me and the kids to, instead of moving
back to my mom’s,
to move to Florida with him. Oh, my God, Jerome. Oh, yeah.
I got all that proof. JUDGE LAKE:
Goodness! LINDSLEY: That’s… That’s a lie. This is just
over-the-top messy. And it just… When does it end? Hopefully today, Your Honor.
Hopefully today, because then he has no other
reason to contact us. I mean from the last time
you all were here, this dialogue has
not changed one bit. No. It is the same old song. I don’t know what it is
tying you two together. But I know one thing
for sure, there is a possibility
it could be this child. Mr. Lindsley,
you still maintain, even after Mrs. Knowles
has tried to correct
the timeline… You still believe that this
is your biological son? Yeah, ’cause she’s
not telling the truth
of the timeline. I’m a woman.
I know when I conceive and I know when I’m pregnant
and when I’m not pregnant. LINDSLEY:
Knowing when you conceive, and knowing who you
slept with is different. I know when I take tests. The tests that I took,
pregnancy tests, don’t lie. If it was yours,
there would have been… it would’ve showed up
in the beginning of April. It didn’t show up
until late April when I was already
with Mr. Lindsley. And you didn’t move out
until late April,
so that makes more sense. I didn’t move
out of your house
until the middle of March. I got back with Mr. Knowles
in the last part of March because that’s when
my family and everybody helped me move
into his house. He said she didn’t move out
of his house until March 22nd
when this all started. JUDGE LAKE: No. I said she didn’t move out
until the end of April. He said end of April.
I heard him. You guys are saying
you guys got back together
on the 22nd of March which you guys could’ve
while I was working
10 hours a day. You weren’t
even working then. So I wasn’t working
at the car wash? No. You actually weren’t,
that… No. No? I wasn’t? Not when I was moving out. I was working
10 hours a day. No. While you were
supposedly sitting at home
with the kids? And then Tyler
all of a sudden
knew the address of where we was living,
and I had to deal with that
when I came home one night? Yeah. He didn’t know
the address to where we were living
until it was already over, the day that
you kicked me out. So, we didn’t have
to go get the oldest
from Tyler a week and a half
before that? Listen, listen. I can see that we could be here
all night long. (LINDSLEY SNIGGERS) And I’m not spending
the night with you all. Thank you. (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) Mmm-mmm. Mmm-mmm. LINDSLEY: When it comes
right down to it, it ain’t even about
the drama between
the three of us,it’s about that baby.JUDGE LAKE:Yes, it is.That’s exactly the truth. So before we go
to the results, I need you all to
agree on two things. Number one, Mrs. Knowles,
if Mr. Lindsley is the biological father
of Tyler Jr., I need you to agree
to allow him to see his son. Do you agree? (SIGHS) Yes, Your Honor. And, Mr. Lindsley,
I need you to agree that if Tyler Jr. is not
your biological child, that you will leave
Mr. and Mrs. Knowles alone once and for all. I wouldn’t have a problem
with it. I would not have
a problem with it. All right, with that said,
we are in agreement.
Let’s get some results. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) These results were prepared
by DNA Diagnostics and
they read as follows. In the case of
Knowles v. Lindsley…
Pertaining to whether
Mr. Lindsley or Mr. Knowles is the father
of three-month-old
Tyler Knowles Jr., it has been determined
by this court… The biological father is… Mr. Knowles. Congratulations,
Mr. Knowles. I knew he was my
child all along. You said that. Because the way
he looks at me… You can see in his eyes
the way he looks at me. I know how to…
I know everything that kid
likes and doesn’t like. Mr. Lindsley, we had
an agreement. Yup. Congratulations. Tyler Jr. is not
your biological son. You have got to
leave Mr. Knowles
and Mrs. Knowles alone. Yes. I ain’t got
a problem with it. You gotta leave them alone. And, Mrs. Knowles, I could see a little look
of fear and anxiety
come over you as I started
to read these results because you know,
and I know, you’ve got some kind
of thing for this man. I don’t know what it is,
and I don’t know
why it is. Focus on your marriage.
Figure out how to
work through it. I wish you
the very best of luck.
Court is adjourned.

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