Childhood Friends Become Enemies (Full Episode) | Paternity Court

Childhood Friends Become Enemies (Full Episode) | Paternity Court


You may be seated. Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is the case of
Rogers v. Stone.
Thank you, Jerome. Good day, everyone. AUDIENCE: Good day. Ms. Rogers, you say after
an encounter with your
elementary school sweetheart, you ended up pregnant. You say the defendant has gone through great lengths
to deny he is the father of your son, Kristian. Mr. Stone. STONE: Yes, Your Honor. You say Ms. Rogers
is promiscuous and it was only
a casual fling. You say she has even slept
with some of your friends and therefore
it is impossible you are the father
of her baby. Is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. Ms. Rogers, you say
there’s no doubt Mr. Stone
is Kristian’s father. ROGERS: Yes, Your Honor. Explain. I met him in elementary
school. We was friends. I kind of moved away
after a while. We was close friends
but we never kept in touch because we were so young. And one day after some years
of being apart, I was at my friend’s
house, or I was at her
boyfriend’s house and we were chilling and he walked
through the door,
and I’m like, “Really?” Of all places,
he had to walk into
where I’m at. So we end up,
we was talking, laughing,
joking about old times, “How you been?”
Catching up and stuff. And we went back
to my friend’s house
with her boyfriendand we had sex that day.And we left her house
and went back
to his house and had sex again.
A couple of times. AUDIENCE: Mmm. And after that
it’s just like, we repeatedly, we would
hang out, have sex. And it went on
for like a month. Once I found out
that he had
a girlfriend, we stopped talking. You had no idea. I did not have no idea
that he had
a girlfriend. He told me
about a girl
that he had talked to but he stopped talking to her. STONE: Objection, Your Honor. When I walked into
that house, she was at
one of my friend’s house. And when I walked in,
she was already hooked up
with one of my friends. ROGERS: I was not
hooked up with nobody. When he walked in the door,
I was sitting at the table. When I… On his lap. I was not on nobody’s lap. When I walked in… When he came in I was sitting at the table. We caught eyes. The friend that he’s talking
about was in the kitchen. I was not sitting
on nobody lap. STONE: Your Honor,
when I walked in,
we caught eyes. She was on his lap. I was not on his lap. And like I said,
we end up talking. He could make you believe… We separated from each other,
I mean… I was not on his lap. JUDGE LAKE: One at a time. We separated from everybody,
we started talking. Yes, we end up leaving
from one of my friend’s house, went to her friend’s house.
We did have sex. But we had a condom on. ROGERS: No… When we left that house, we went home,
went to my house. We had a condom on. Then… We had a condom on, yes. In the bathroom in
my friend’s house, yes,
we had a condom on. Yes. The first time we went
to his house, yes, we did
have a condom on. Not every time I had sex
with him, we wore a condom. Not every time. Did you have unprotected sex
with Ms. Stone? STONE: One time, Your Honor. ROGERS: It was not one time. One time. And that was in the threesome. ROGERS: It was not one time. In the where? STONE: In the threesome. Between me and her and… (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) ROGERS: We had a threesome. The night I found out
that he had a girlfriend,
we had a threesome. Jerome, at first I thought
he said, “In the freezer.” (ALL LAUGHING) Then I realized,
he said, “In a threesome.” I don’t know which one
caught me by surprise more. (ROGERS LAUGHS) So, you didn’t use
protection in a threesome with Ms. Rogers and another… The other girl
was my girlfriend. What? That he did not tell me about
until that night. He did not tell me that
this girl was his girlfriend. Yes, he said that he was
talking to a girl before, but he told me that at right
then, he was single. I would have not kept
sleeping with him if I knew
he was in a relationship. That’s a lie, Your Honor. I’m not that type of person
to sleep with somebody
in a relationship that I know
was in a relationship. STONE: But you were still
talking to one of my friends. ROGERS: I was not
talking to nobody. When I was talking to him… Before and after. When I was talking to him,
it was just me and him. And we was never together.
We was never in
a relationship. It was just friends
having sex. That’s it. His other friend,
I knew him about the same time as I known him,
he just don’t know that. He does not know
how I know these people but he’s trying
to make assumptions. I know him as a friend. I did not sleep with him.
So after me and him
had stopped talking, I did not sleep with
that boy during then. That’s a lie, Your Honor. Me and him having sex… I heard that they actually
the day before…
We did not. We did not have sex until after I had stopped
talking to him. I heard it happened
the day before. (ROGERS SIGHS) Three days after and then… ROGERS: No. Uh… ROGERS: I never slept
with the boy. STONE: She told me… ROGERS: I never sat
on no boy’s lap. ROGERS: He’s a liar. STONE: A couple
of months later when she told me
she was pregnant. He’s a liar. One at a time. So your friends were talking,
Mr. Stone. Yes. And you all basically compared notes? STONE: No. It… (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) No, what happened was… ROGERS: Probably so. ROGERS: All lying together. That I told him, like, I knew Destiny for a while,
so… I was like, “You talking
to her?” He like,
“Yeah, I talk to her. “We did this, we did that.” No, no, no. So, I’m like, “Oh, really?” No. So, I’m like, “When was this?” He broke it down to me like
“Yeah, we did it
the day before.” ROGERS: No. No. Then, I would have said
three days after, and then when she, uh, told me she was pregnant,
he went to say, “They did it “around twice.” ROGERS: No. You’re saying that isn’t true. ROGERS: It’s not true. At the time you were sleeping
with Mr. Stone, were you sleeping
with anyone else? No. The whole time that
we was having sex, I did not
sleep with nobody else. All these boys in his little
friend group that he has, I’ve known a lot of them
for a very long time. STONE: She told me she was
in a relationship already. I was in a relationship.
I had just got out
of a relationship. I was not with nobody
when I was with him. But were there any benefits
with the other friends? No. (AUDIENCE TITTERING) There was no benefits
with no other friends until after I stopped
talking to him. That’s not what I heard. He can hear whatever
he want to. All them boys was liars. I’ve known… You told me yourself that you would have
an encounter before we even
had the first encounter. First of all,
when he walked in the door, the day he came over,
me and his friend was talking, we was catching up, too. I was not sitting on his lap
or nothing. When he came,
we all went in the basement ’cause the boys
was playing the games. And we were talking.
We was catching up. I went and told my friend,
I’m like… ‘Cause she didn’t
know I know him. Nobody in the house
knew I knew him before he walked
in that house. And we was always telling
people, “Oh, we went
to school together.” I was not sitting
on nobody’s lap. JUDGE LAKE: Listen, listen,
Ms. Rogers. It really doesn’t matter.
At the end of the day, even if you was sitting
on the friend’s lap, or you weren’t,
at the end of the night, you was sitting
on Mr. Stone’s. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) That’s the problem. I want to understand
the facts surrounding
this situation. How did you find out
you were pregnant? I went to the doctor
to get my birth control shot. Because I know I’m having sex,
so I’m like, “I need to go “because I don’t want
to have no more kids.” JUDGE LAKE: Any more? I have twins. Eighteen-years-old with
three children? Yes. Okay. I didn’t want no more kids
because I had just
got accepted to college. Everything was looking up.
So, I was like, “I wanna put “the cap on before
anything happens.” Not knowing that I was already
pregnant. So, it was like, I was scared. I was scared.
I was scared. I really was because
it was like, another baby?So, I called him
and told him I was pregnant.
STONE:We never had
that conversation, not once.
ROGERS:No.STONE: What happened was, this particular day,
I was in the car with
one of my friends. They pulled up on me. And he said he had
to go pick his girl up
and her, which is her best friend. We get to them, we drop ’em off
at the hospital. Imagine, I don’t know
what we’re doing. She hadn’t said nothing
about the matter. We did drop her off
at the hospital. ROGERS: Oh! I did not know not one thing. We dropped them off and left. When we came back,
she still haven’t tell me
she was pregnant. I did know nothing yet. No! And that was early, I wanna
say three, four months in. I didn’t know nothing. When she walked up and said
she had to tell me something, but didn’t tell me
right then and there. That’s not what happened. And then waited… It’s not… …a month or two later
to finally come out… So, you’re dropping her off
at the hospital, and you don’t know why. Yeah, I wasn’t driving. I was in the passenger seat.
My friend came to me. This boy… We were chilling, talking, and then he said he had
to pick them up
and drop them off. He knew we was going to
ultrasound. So, I roll with him. He saw
the ultrasound pictures
when I came out the hospital. He looked at ’em. No, I did not. He held them in his hand and looked at the picture No, I did not. of my ultrasound. It said,
“You’re having a boy.” I didn’t find out
I was pregnant till
I was four months pregnant. (STAMMERS) I give… No. My friend sent me
a picture of it. ROGERS: I give him that. Okay? I’m in
the car with my friend. She had… They had
been over my house. They was like, I said,
“Can you take me
to my ultrasound?” She said, “Okay.”
I was already in the car
when we picked him up. We picked him up. From his school,
’cause he was walking
his sister to school. And then we went and… STONE: That’s not
the same day, Your Honor. And then we went
to the ultrasound. Not the same day. ROGERS: And he stayed in
the car with his two friends. And we and my
best friend went up there to
the ultrasound to get it did. When I got back in the car,
I sat next to him. That’s a lie.
There was only two of us
in the car. I sat next to him. And he looked at
the ultrasound pictures. And he said,
“Damn, he got a big-ass head.” That’s what he said. JUDGE LAKE: Wait
a minute. So… I don’t remember you showing
me no ultrasound pictures. ROGERS: He said it.
He said it. And so you don’t remember
any of this, Mr. Stone. STONE: No. STONE: I remember
that day exactly. He got amnesia now. He got amnesia since we here.
He don’t remember
none of this now. JUDGE LAKE: Do you remember
ever seeing ultrasound
pictures of the baby? Yeah, through a text message
that I got through a friend. So, at what point
did you determine the baby was Mr. Stone’s? When that day I went
to that ultrasound and I
found out I was having a boy. And that lady told me
when my baby was conceived. Okay. So, at your ultrasound,
you got the date. The conception date. The days don’t even
add up, Your Honor. What did they say? The lady said that
I got pregnant during
the beginning of November. Okay. Is that when you were
intimate with Mr. Stone? Yes, that was part
of the time I was… No, Your Honor. We was intimate… We were intimate
between the 17th and the 22. We have… 22nd, ’cause it was… My birthday was the 24th,
it was the week
before my birthday. We had been having
sex for almost a month. Okay? We started having
sex at the end of October
towards the end of November. So, you say
for an entire month. STONE: No. ROGERS: Mmm-hmm. It was like the beginning,
like, the mid-November. ROGERS: Your Honor. And then, like I said,
from the 17th to 22nd. And then the baby was born
August 25th. ROGERS: I can show you… He can even say that.
Even if he want to say that, my baby was still conceived
in November. What is that
you have Ms. Rogers? ROGERS: I have a calendar. Let me see that, please. Jerome, will you hand me
that evidence? It shows you when
my baby was conceived. No matter where
you want to put it at. And when he was born. This is a calendar that states
that baby Kristian was born on August 25th. ROGERS:I went over
my due date
because Kristian was
a very big baby.
And my body wasn’t
trying to get him to come out.
STONE: Definitely didn’t hear
about that one either. JUDGE LAKE: You say
you were intimate
with Mr. Stone in November. ROGERS: Mmm-hmm. JUDGE LAKE: And that’s when
the doctors told you
you conceived.And so, Mr. Stone,
you admit that you were
intimate with Ms. Rogers
in November.
You say it’s between
the 17th and the 22nd. Yes, and the last encounter
was I want to say
about the 22nd. ROGERS: No. JUDGE LAKE: Okay. Why are you so convinced
you aren’t or can’t be
the father when that falls right within
the window of conception
identified by the doctors? STONE:Because of the fact of
her exact words.
You can’t tell nobody
it’s a possibility.
You can’t do that.That has your mind wondering. And then other information
that I can see that
I know was true. So, you do know that
it’s a possibility, you just don’t believe it
for certain. Deep down inside, I don’t
think it’s my child at all. This is the first time
he’s saying this. Let me tell you something.
When me and him talk,
this is his baby. Okay? This is his baby. JUDGE LAKE: Really? He says, “my baby.” He does not say, “the baby,”
he says, “my baby.” I have text messages
of him saying, “When can I see my baby?” The baby got forced on me,
Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: I’d like
to see those. Jerome, will you
hand me these Sure. text messages? The messages say,
from Mr. Stone, “What are you doing?”And you say, “Sitting here.”And Mr. Stone says, “Oh,
okay. I miss nugget.”
You write, “Okay.”And then you write back
Mr. Stone, “When can
I have my baby?”
ROGERS:So if you didn’t think
the baby is yours,
why you calling him
“my baby” now? Because at this time,
I was already attached
to the baby. And I told her that. Why?
Because I grew up
without a father and I know that
the predicament that he in, he might grow up
without one, too. And I wouldn’t like that. ROGERS: (STAMMERS)
Listen, I… So I try to step up and be
a man about the situation. ROGERS: I’ve never tried… ROGERS: My thing is,
I always… And still get pushed down. ROGERS: Never thought… Understand I’ve been wrong but
I’m doing everything right. I told him that. I don’t
fault you because I did say
it might be a possibility. I’d never faulted him
for that.
So, it’s like, I did tell him… STONE: Like she hid
everything on me. I did. I did tell him Until the baby was born. that I don’t fault him
for how he feels. But he has not came to me
since my baby had been born really saying
that he really feel
like this wasn’t his baby. His family came over
and said my baby looked
just like him. Well, Ms. Rogers,
you are saying now that you told him
there’s a possibility there could be someone else,
but you came to court today saying you know for sure… ROGERS: I do know for sure. I said then in
that conversation that
it might be a possibility. Because this was around
when I found out
I was pregnant because I didn’t know exactly
how far along I was. When I went, when I first
found out I was pregnant, I didn’t,
they couldn’t tell me. I did not get
an actual ultrasound until probably
a month and a half later. Because after I left there, I had other stuff that I had
to get ready for the baby. So why didn’t you come
straight to me and tell me that you thought you was
pregnant with my baby? Instead of having it come out.
You should have come to me. ROGERS: I told you. I told you myself! STONE: My friend came to me. I called him. No. My friend came to me first. I called him. My mom had to go
to the Children’s Center
with my sisters and I sat there while they was
in the back and called him. And I told him,
I said, “I’m pregnant.” That’s a lie, Your Honor. I said, “I’m pregnant.” So, you’re saying
you did tell him to his face. ROGERS: No, I was on
the phone with him. STONE: Never. On the phone,
and you say, Mr. Stone, you heard it
from somebody else. My friends called me first. JUDGE LAKE: All right. So, I don’t think they’ve
agreed on one point
today, Jerome. I mean, not one thing. (ROGERS SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) It’s as if you all were in
two different galaxies. And somehow, ended up
with a potential child. JEROME: I agree with you. Everything you said…
I don’t think they agreed
on anything but the threesome. Yeah. That’s true. (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) And that’s not a good thing. JEROME: No. And that’s why
we’re here today. Yes, ma’am. Jerome, I’m ready
for the results. (AUDIENCE CHEERING
AND APPLAUDING) These results were prepared
by DNA Diagnostics and
they read as follows. In the case of
Rogers v. Stone,
when it comes
to 7-month-old Kristian Rogers, it has been determined
by this court, Mr. Stone, you… Are not the father. (SIGHS) Told you I wasn’t going to
lie about nothing. I know what I did.
I paid for extra. It’s cool. STONE: Not cool. It is cool. You proved
what you wanted to. You proved that I’m such
the whore that you think I am. You proved it. Thank you. It’s not that. I wanted to know for a fact. (REPEATEDLY) You proved it. I wanted to know for a fact
if that was my child or not. You proved I was such
a whore. I don’t know
who my baby daddy… Just like I told you,
no man will grow up
without a father. You proved your point.
You’re good. Do you know who Kristian’s
biological father is since it is not Mr. Stone? Yeah. But he doesn’t want
nothing to do with me
or nugget, so… So, what we have
to do now is very important. I want you to understand
that just because you have
the children, and I know they’re young now, I don’t want you to feel like
you cannot become something. Your children are blessings. And you’re still worth
every opportunity that
comes before you. Getting yourself an education
is going to be key. You gonna need that. Mr. Stone, I know. And I tell you what. You all
used to be very close friends. Ms. Rogers probably can use
a friend but a real friend. Not one that’s getting her
into situations that’s gonna negatively affect her future, but one that will
build her up and remind
her what’s possible. I always have
been there for her. Always. I just wanted
to know the truth. JUDGE LAKE: Good. I want you all
to get back to just
being friends, real friends. Platonic friends. And Ms. Rogers,
use your village. Mr. Stone loves your baby, and you never know
how he can be of help to you. Whatever you need. Make sure
you check on her, okay? I wish you all
the very, very best of luck. Court is adjourned.

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